| Subject: King Tiger Porsche - 3./s.Pz.Abt. 503 |
 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 05:14 AM UTC |
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Hi All, Following the post of my partner Sebastian, from IPMS Uruguay, I want to share my proyect : King Tiger Porsche - 3./s.Pz.Abt. 503, Anneliese. As come with the zimmerit and I don't want to add more photoetched parts than the kit ones, Its an easy build The actual vehicle (pics for discussion only). Note the jerrycan instead of the wood block. How they hold it?.   The Wheels -  The chassis  Dry fit test    Gluying the turret ring  Slant mold 3 pieces cannon tip and aluminium.   Rear hull - Maybe need some scarving for better fit?  The turret and cupolas, two of them, one with and without small details   Hope you like it, and please send me some tips and tricks ! Bye for now. Alvaro |
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 | E. Bowman alfa10 | Location: Massachusetts, United States Member Since: January 15, 2009
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| Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 05:33 AM UTC |
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Looks good so far, Alvaro. I'm building the earlier, non-zim version of this kit (dml 6312), so I'll be watching your progress with interest. |
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 | sebastian braida sbs1701 | Location: Uruguay Member Since: July 12, 2009
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| Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 06:53 PM UTC |
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Hi Alvaro,
I like the post, but I need to see advances on the kitty. I know what a nice work you did on the t34, so on this one, there is no doubt it will be a "contest winner".
About the fuel can on the back, did you noted is doesn´t have a ring to hang it, it is supported form the buttom as far I can see, probably a field modification
Did you noted also the spare track between the exhausts?, nice detail to do
Well, see you arround
Sebastián |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Monday, July 27, 2009 - 02:00 AM UTC |
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One step ahead, carving the zimmerit, add some plates and details in the turret. Few pics, due to low batt charge - take 15 hours to 100% !   Dry fit  2nd. "Production" King Tigers have near the rear corner, a hose to manage the spills or fuel fumes. The early ones, did have them too?. On wich side?, pics?. TIA |
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 | Pawel RZYMSKI spitfire303 | Location: Gdańsk, Poland Member Since: December 22, 2006
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| Posted: Monday, July 27, 2009 - 11:21 AM UTC |
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2nd. "Production" King Tigers have near the rear corner, a hose to manage the spills or fuel fumes. The early ones, did have them too?
No they didn't. spit |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 01:15 AM UTC |
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Thanks Spit. |
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 | yrq_ekb yrq_ekb | Location: Sverdlovsk, Russia / Россия Member Since: July 15, 2008
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| Posted: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 04:18 AM UTC |
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Yes, It is hollow.  |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 04:54 AM UTC |
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Thanks yrq_ekb I' need to rebuilt this area. Any more pics?. Regards, TIA Alvaro |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 01:38 AM UTC |
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Thanks to the previous post, I can do some homework. Using very low speed, later dental tools to re-shape it.  Preparing the photoetched parts, the rounded grills, are specially fine. Handled with care  Note the damage - using my fingers! . Looks real !  Mg. A lot of pieces, unnecessary to me, as I close all hatches! Hope you like it! Cheers |
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 | E. Bowman alfa10 | Location: Massachusetts, United States Member Since: January 15, 2009
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| Posted: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 02:51 AM UTC |
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Thanks to the previous post, I can do some homework.
Using very low speed, later dental tools to re-shape it.
Nice method, using the drill. I had to use a pin vise to rework the same detail on mine. Your way looks much easier. Keep it coming, I'm enjoying watching you work. |
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 | yrq_ekb yrq_ekb | Location: Sverdlovsk, Russia / Россия Member Since: July 15, 2008
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| Posted: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 05:54 AM UTC |
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Alvaro Brasesco as your wish  1. hooks on rear decks  Your variant is blue. Sorry for the Russian on the pictures and for my bad English. 2. may be useful (Dimensions in cm.)  and other pictures http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_175362.html#175362 |
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 | yrq_ekb yrq_ekb | Location: Sverdlovsk, Russia / Россия Member Since: July 15, 2008
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| Posted: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 06:27 AM UTC |
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 Your TigerII have single vent line for fuel system. from "VK45.02 to TigerII": Quoted Text
6.3.2.8 Kraftstoffanlage (Fuel System) Starting in April 1944, fuel tank installation was altered and a vent line was added at the high point in the system.
6.3.2.20 Kraftstoffanlage (Fuel System) By October 1944, the number of fuel line connections was decreased by about half to decrease fuel leaks in the engine compartment. The reduced number of interconnections between fuel tanks necessitated the addition of three vent lines to ventilate all seven fuel tanks.
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 | Herbert Ackermans H_Ackermans | Location: Gelderland, Netherlands Member Since: July 11, 2006
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| Posted: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 07:00 AM UTC |
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a thing about the ventlines, they weren't added for spills or fumes, but to allow air to run out of the tanks during re-fueling. Also, during driving, they prevented underpressure in the tanks that would hamper the fuel-feed to the engine. Fuel actually cannot enter the ventlines, as during refueling, it would overflow in the filler. The ventlines are above the filler access, and as Archimedes showed, liquids will stay at the same level when 2 openings exist.
And about the Zimmerit, DML should've thought it a little bit further through, as areas really need to be cleared of Zimmerit like under the exhaustcovers, in order to allow them to sit realistic. |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 09:00 AM UTC |
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Thanks Alfa10 and Herbert for your comments. Yrq_ekb nice pics After trying to do the hole with the Tamiya pin vice, I recall the drill Now I working in the turret, and late in the week move again to the aft body. Any tips for removing or scarving the zimm are welcome?. I choose 0.45 mm wire for detailing the handles, thin/fat? Cheers |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 02:02 AM UTC |
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Latest pics, inside the turret, self defence weapon and the cannon. No details there as I will close all the hatches.  Details added - less the handles . Periscope "cap" was thinned with file.  Q: Wich one?, with or without the channels/slots ?  Now I need to detach the rest...... |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Monday, August 17, 2009 - 02:09 AM UTC |
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More parts added  Two parts photoetched  Turret aft   The chain comes with the kit  Added MG  Aft details   Hope you like it, comments? |
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 | Tim Kelly tjkelly | Location: Maryland, United States Member Since: May 04, 2007
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| Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 07:26 AM UTC |
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Coming along nicely Alvaro, great details you've added. Keep at it, is turning out to be a beauty. Thanks for sharing your build.
Cheers - Tim |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 - 04:19 AM UTC |
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Thanks Tim, I don't take pics this weekend .I have a Corsair too, check it at http://www.ipmsuruguay.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=2307
Cheers, Alvaro |
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 | Scott muchachos | Location: Ontario, Canada Member Since: May 21, 2008
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| Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 - 08:32 AM UTC |
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Q: Wich one?, with or without the channels/slots ?
The one with the channels is a late production variant. The slots are for drainage of rainwater. |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 08:19 AM UTC |
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Thanks for your imput , Also I check Tiger tanks VK45.02 to Tiger II" Thomas L Jentz & Hilary L. Doyle - Schiffer Publishing. and said that this kind was produced after May 44. |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 09:11 AM UTC |
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Replacing some plastic parts   Dry fit  by now |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 02:24 AM UTC |
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Checking references with another partner - IPMS Uruguay, he found a JagdTiger pic, the one with the roof blow out, and one American Soldier in front of it, with 2 pairs of handles in the front hatches Q: This feature are show in Jadg's, or Porsche and Henschell have them?. If not in use, the holes must be filled in?. |
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 | Marco Sari Jupiterblitz | Location: Niedersachsen, Germany Member Since: December 30, 2007
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| Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 03:10 AM UTC |
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Hello Alvaro, "This feature are show in Jadg's, or Porsche and Henschell have them?."Late Jagdtiger got them, so you should fill the holes
 Another thing I have noticed is that you should correct a production error by DML concerning the turret roof
 The correct position
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 03:24 AM UTC |
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 Hello Marco Wow, that's fast! Thanks for the data and pics. Yes, I note the roof indicator problem. Interesting, the pics of the instruction booklet, show it correct! |
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 | Mike High TacFireGuru | Location: Colorado, United States Member Since: December 25, 2004
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| Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 03:39 AM UTC |
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Alvaro, I really appreciate you beginning this thread. I'm building Dragon's '39-'45 Series Sd.Kfz. 182 King Tiger (Porsche Turret), # 6189 utilizing Cavalier's zimmerit. You've brought up some questions/issues that I've not thought about (nor some of the folks that have been helping me out). I'm also appreciating yrq_ekb's input (among others). Here's a picture of where mine is right now:  Needless to say, I've "subscribed" to your thread and will be looking forward to following along. Should mention....mine may be from the 1./schwere SS-Panzer-Abteilung 501. Not 100% certain yet. Mike |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 06:20 AM UTC |
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Mike, Thanks for your words. Your model looks great too!, in the past I have the Tamiya one, but I sell it, as I don't like to do the zim. So, when Dragon come to rescue, I buy it!. I "envy" your tracks!, here in the far south, kits and aftermarket are very expensive, so this kind of details aren't possible. We have 60% tax over price + shipping, so imagine.... Please, post your progress!. I was a bit slow as in sept. 26/27 we have our "Nationals", and I finish a base for my T-34, anyway, this week end I planning to add the wires, etc. Regards, |
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 | Mike High TacFireGuru | Location: Colorado, United States Member Since: December 25, 2004
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| Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 06:38 AM UTC |
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Alvaro, With your permission, I'll post an occasional update to what I'm doing and what others are suggesting. I certainly don't want to hijack the thread, as what you've got going is really good and I'll be closely following it. By the way...the Friul's came in a trade...so....I didn't drop the $$ normally expected. There are at least four things that have originated from you post that I'll incorporate into my build...so, I'm here to watch, "listen," and learn. Mike |
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 | Jim Hand Bratushka | Location: Indiana, United States Member Since: May 09, 2008
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| Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 09:08 AM UTC |
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| Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 04:43 PM UTC |
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alvaro if buying from foreign online shops isnt possible, try ebay, but of course that comes with its burdens. try the Buy sell or trade forum here, it will sure give you a more reasonable price to pay. both of the tigers looks great. mike great job in the tracks, ive seen how people assemble them and they look very tedious looks like it took alot of work. alvaro i like how you've paid attention to the little details. |
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 | Alvaro Brasesco alewar | Location: Artigas, Uruguay Member Since: December 27, 2006
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| Posted: Friday, September 04, 2009 - 01:48 AM UTC |
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Mike, Post here when you want, all are welcome. Jim, I share your comment, to me the forums are the perfect way to share tips, tech and tricks to improve our modelling skills and models. Calvin, the problem here its that all the packages pass trough customs, and they "need" to extend a bill. The 60% tax applies to all packages or mail if the guy think that you're importing something. Only books, Dvd and Cd's aren't tax. Thanks for your words guys |
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