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Campaign - Maschinen Krieger Zbv3000
SteveAndrews
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 10:16 PM GMT+7
Hi Christian and Paul

Yes, it was surprisingly fast, and now it calls to me very day. It has become my precious!

Have a good day.

S
hofpig
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 10:33 PM GMT+7

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Hi Christian and Paul

Yes, it was surprisingly fast, and now it calls to me very day. It has become my precious!

Have a good day.

S



I know what you mean I got the falke last year cheap on ebay and every time I see her I just have to tear myself away from diving in and starting her!!

Paul
hofpig
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 11:29 PM GMT+7
Well just under a month to go now guys. Do we all know how we are painting our kits?

I finally made my decision last night after trawling through a mass of ww2 aircraft cammo pics. Looking at some pictures of finnish aircraft I found this.



Ignoring the yellow stripes and the german markings. I found a pic of a P51d mustang with a blue front end and nose I am thinking of combining this with the cammo pattern with an underside in a lighter colour?

Paul
roteck
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 01:51 AM GMT+7
Interesting camo! I haven't have time to look into that yet, but I know mine will sports a lot of chipping as I want to depict it as a well used machine.

Probably sand with panzer grey blobs... I have a good mental picture of it but can't find anything online... yet! :-)

On a side note, since I can't handle the wait game anymore, I'll start a small building blog of the Melusine and the Gustav! This will allow me to satisfy my need to start building some Ma.k. stuff... for now! :-)

Concerning the markings for that Bf-109, I believe they are Finnish, and not German but I may be wrong since I'm not a 2nd world war specialist!
hofpig
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 02:16 AM GMT+7

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Interesting camo! I haven't have time to look into that yet, but I know mine will sports a lot of chipping as I want to depict it as a well used machine.

Probably sand with panzer grey blobs... I have a good mental picture of it but can't find anything online... yet! :-)

On a side note, since I can't handle the wait game anymore, I'll start a small building blog of the Melusine and the Gustav! This will allow me to satisfy my need to start building some Ma.k. stuff... for now! :-)

Concerning the markings for that Bf-109, I believe they are Finnish, and not German but I may be wrong since I'm not a 2nd world war specialist!



You are of course entirely correct on the markings, I typed the wrong thing. They are indeed Finnish, although I have seen a similar german scheme. I was tempted to use the Italian desert scheme but I struggled to find an appropriate rattle can colour for the base coat hence when I saw the finnish scheme I realised that looked better anyway. I think the blue accents will look great with the cammo. I just ordered a bunch of dial decals in 1/24th and 1/32 to do the instrument panel(I can't paint those panels for want of trying.) They should be here by the end of the week so I will be ready for the off.

Paul
roteck
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 04:46 AM GMT+7

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Interesting camo! I haven't have time to look into that yet, but I know mine will sports a lot of chipping as I want to depict it as a well used machine.

Probably sand with panzer grey blobs... I have a good mental picture of it but can't find anything online... yet! :-)

On a side note, since I can't handle the wait game anymore, I'll start a small building blog of the Melusine and the Gustav! This will allow me to satisfy my need to start building some Ma.k. stuff... for now! :-)

Concerning the markings for that Bf-109, I believe they are Finnish, and not German but I may be wrong since I'm not a 2nd world war specialist!



You are of course entirely correct on the markings, I typed the wrong thing. They are indeed Finnish, although I have seen a similar german scheme. I was tempted to use the Italian desert scheme but I struggled to find an appropriate rattle can colour for the base coat hence when I saw the finnish scheme I realised that looked better anyway. I think the blue accents will look great with the cammo. I just ordered a bunch of dial decals in 1/24th and 1/32 to do the instrument panel(I can't paint those panels for want of trying.) They should be here by the end of the week so I will be ready for the off.

Paul



That's a clever idea Paul... I can't wait to see how it will turn out! :-)
SteveAndrews
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 03:45 AM GMT+7
Hi Guys

Yes, that cammo will look cool, with maybe a futuristic twist?

I'm still deciding, but I have a crazy idea for the Lunadiver based on aircraft cammo principles. I imagine this thing operating in the upper atmosphere, so the cammo on top would be designed to blend into the blue and white of the earth as seen from space, and the lower surfaces would be black with a sprinkling of stars to blend into the darkness of space as seen from the earth below. I'll also mark it up with some bold contrasting markings in red or orange, and a liberal sprinkling of Russian stenciling from the spares box.

I'm not quite convinced yet, and I don't know if this all fits with the MaK story, so there's more thinking to do. What do you think?

Is it time to start yet?

Happy modeling.

Steve

roteck
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 08:05 AM GMT+7

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Hi Guys

Yes, that cammo will look cool, with maybe a futuristic twist?

I'm still deciding, but I have a crazy idea for the Lunadiver based on aircraft cammo principles. I imagine this thing operating in the upper atmosphere, so the cammo on top would be designed to blend into the blue and white of the earth as seen from space, and the lower surfaces would be black with a sprinkling of stars to blend into the darkness of space as seen from the earth below. I'll also mark it up with some bold contrasting markings in red or orange, and a liberal sprinkling of Russian stenciling from the spares box.

I'm not quite convinced yet, and I don't know if this all fits with the MaK story, so there's more thinking to do. What do you think?

Is it time to start yet?

Happy modeling.

Steve




Interesting idea! And it got me thinking... why are most military spaceship gray of white? I mean, wouldn't it make sense to paint it black to blend in with the surrounding space? Look at military vehicles and soldiers.

Governments are busting their balls to come up with clever camo scheme to try and make the soldiers/military vehicles blend in the surrounding area, why not apply the same principles in outer space?
hofpig
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 07:52 PM GMT+7

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Hi Guys

Yes, that cammo will look cool, with maybe a futuristic twist?

I'm still deciding, but I have a crazy idea for the Lunadiver based on aircraft cammo principles. I imagine this thing operating in the upper atmosphere, so the cammo on top would be designed to blend into the blue and white of the earth as seen from space, and the lower surfaces would be black with a sprinkling of stars to blend into the darkness of space as seen from the earth below. I'll also mark it up with some bold contrasting markings in red or orange, and a liberal sprinkling of Russian stenciling from the spares box.

I'm not quite convinced yet, and I don't know if this all fits with the MaK story, so there's more thinking to do. What do you think?

Is it time to start yet?

Happy modeling.

Steve




Interesting idea! And it got me thinking... why are most military spaceship gray of white? I mean, wouldn't it make sense to paint it black to blend in with the surrounding space? Look at military vehicles and soldiers.

Governments are busting their balls to come up with clever camo scheme to try and make the soldiers/military vehicles blend in the surrounding area, why not apply the same principles in outer space?



I think a lot of the reason is due to the temperature of space. Most people see space as very cold but that can be very far from the truth. If you look at the space shuttle, yes the underside is coated in ceramic tiles but the rest is painted white I guess to reflect some of the light. Out in deep space some sort of cammo would be a great idea, or out in asteroid fields? I always envisioned some sort of projected camouflage system for space, constantly adapting itself to suit the situation.

Paul
SteveAndrews
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Posted: Friday, March 06, 2015 - 03:10 AM GMT+7
Hi Guys

Hmmm yes, very interesting thoughts. I guess away from the atmosphere the natural cammo is pitch black.

On the other hand I was thinking that in space the combat distances would probably be beyond visual range so you could go crazy with all sorts of markings.

Now I'm thinking of it based above Mars with reds and oranges as the primary top colours and black underneath.

Its time to dig out some old sci-fi books I think. Maybe I'll go back to the 70's and take a look at Chris Foss' work for inspiration?

Decisions decisions! This is almost as much fun as building the kit.

Have a great day guys.

S
hofpig
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Posted: Friday, March 06, 2015 - 03:42 AM GMT+7

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Hi Guys

Hmmm yes, very interesting thoughts. I guess away from the atmosphere the natural cammo is pitch black.

On the other hand I was thinking that in space the combat distances would probably be beyond visual range so you could go crazy with all sorts of markings.

Now I'm thinking of it based above Mars with reds and oranges as the primary top colours and black underneath.

Its time to dig out some old sci-fi books I think. Maybe I'll go back to the 70's and take a look at Chris Foss' work for inspiration?

Decisions decisions! This is almost as much fun as building the kit.

Have a great day guys.

S



Oh yes, how did you know Chris Foss is one of my favourite sci-fi artists of all time!!

Paul
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Posted: Friday, March 06, 2015 - 04:26 AM GMT+7
I have a stalled build for one of the armored space suits (Fireball?) that uses a splinter scheme in black, greys and whites to simulate a suit moving into and through the debris field of a space battle. I will drag it off the shelf-of-shame and put up a couple of pics later.

Check out the Starship modeller MaK discussion group as well, there is a discussion there about 'canon' cammo schemes or going your own way.

Mike
SteveAndrews
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Posted: Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 11:14 PM GMT+7
Hi Paul and Mike

Paul, yes he's one of the classic sci-fi illustrators in my book. I remember spending ages in bookshops just looking at his cover work, and feeling awed.

Mike, thanks for the great tip about Starship Modellers. I'm going to check it out.

24 days and counting!

Have a great day.

S
roteck
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 01:33 AM GMT+7
Just a little over a week to go now! I started on the Melusine and Gustav... Not much to report, but still, they are great minikits.

Chris
hofpig
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 01:43 AM GMT+7

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Just a little over a week to go now! I started on the Melusine and Gustav... Not much to report, but still, they are great minikits.

Chris



Damn I'd better put my paint order in!

Paul
roteck
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 02:08 AM GMT+7
Indeed, you better hurry and get that paint scheme... although, I haven't decided yet what I would do! :-)
hofpig
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 02:12 AM GMT+7
All ordered except 1 which I am going to try my local shop for tomorrow!
roteck
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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2015 - 12:48 AM GMT+7

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All ordered except 1 which I am going to try my local shop for tomorrow!



Awesome... not too many days left before the official start! :-)

Wouhou!
MLD
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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2015 - 02:55 AM GMT+7
Now comes the hard part, deciding what to build..


Mike
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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2015 - 03:19 AM GMT+7
nice collection




SteveAndrews
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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2015 - 10:22 PM GMT+7
Hi Mike

Wow, that's not so much a stash, more an investment portfolio! Hasegawa should be giving you discounts. Good luck with choosing what to do.

Lift-off in two days and counting.

Have a great day.

S
BobSolo
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 01:49 AM GMT+7
Wow Mike i didnt know they had made so many kits! You might have to play "spin the bottle" to choose

Steve i like your painting ideas!

Ahh i think im looking forward to watching you all build/paint these models more that you are, going to be so cool

Cheers Bob
MLD
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 07:44 AM GMT+7

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nice collection







Hey! I resent (mildly and with good humor) that remark!
I have plans to build every last one of them... assuming I live to be 347...
ryally
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Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 12:51 AM GMT+7

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Now comes the hard part, deciding what to build..


Mike



Where are u hiding your Camel and King Krote ?
SteveAndrews
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Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 01:25 AM GMT+7
Hi Bob, and everyone.

So I'm counting down the hours now, with growing excitement. I've decided my main objective is to get the build done as fast as I can, including a little scratch building and raiding the spares box to add extra detail. Then if all goes to plan I'll focus most of the time on painting. On that note, thanks Bob, I have just about settled on what I'm calling the upper atmosphere cammo... just about.

This is my first campaign, and I've never worked to the clock before, so I might have to, er... adapt my plans! Watch this space for more.

How are you guys approaching this?

Nine hours to go. Woo-hoo!