login   |    register

Scale Modeling Sponsors

See Your Ad Here!

Science Fiction: Campaigns
Information and discussion of group builds and campaigns.
Hosted by Rowan Baylis
Sci-Fi and Alternative History Campaign Tread
SGTJKJ
#041
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 9,328 posts
ModelGeek: 492 posts
Posted: Monday, August 24, 2015 - 06:48 PM GMT+7
Sounds great, Giovanni. Welcome onboard!
Bravo1102
_VISITCOMMUNITY
New Jersey, United States
Joined: December 08, 2003
KitMaker: 1,542 posts
ModelGeek: 5 posts
Posted: Monday, August 24, 2015 - 07:04 PM GMT+7
I'll join. I'm thinking this could be the reason to build that Trade Federation tank I've had forever.
SGTJKJ
#041
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 9,328 posts
ModelGeek: 492 posts
Posted: Monday, August 24, 2015 - 08:21 PM GMT+7
Wecome onboard, Stephen.

Updated roll call. We are up to 12 participants so far.


John Keogh, M706 in post-apocalyptic (atomic war) diorama
Bob R.
Jesper, Games Workshop Mechanicus tank
MLD, ME 262-U4
Windysean, Hover ship
Bluestab, Dino Roman Cavalry
RedDuster, WH40K or WWII paper project
Scipio2010, JS-3S M 1946
phantom_phanatic309, WWI tank with Martian guns
Giovanni C, Paper Panzer 1947
Stephen C. Willoughby, Trade Federation tank
rfbaer
hofpig
_VISITCOMMUNITY
England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: March 04, 2007
KitMaker: 1,309 posts
ModelGeek: 155 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 02:09 AM GMT+7
Well I have signed up but no Ideas yet so may have to wait until '16 till I start!

Paul
SGTJKJ
#041
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 9,328 posts
ModelGeek: 492 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 02:24 AM GMT+7
Welcome, Paul.

No problem. Plenty of time to decide, change your mind, decide again etc. I normally do that a lot for campaigns. So many cool ideas, so little time
tankmodeler
#417
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Ontario, Canada
Joined: March 01, 2004
KitMaker: 2,933 posts
ModelGeek: 392 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 04:35 AM GMT+7
Just entered though it will be a while until I start...

Subject is an Israeli Panther

What if the Israelis built their post war armoured force on Panthers instead of Shermans??

I'm imagining a late Panther G in about the 1967-73 period. Gun will be the French 105 from the M51, the turret will get a bustle for the radio and counterbalancing the new gun. The trunions and mantlet will get pushed forward as per the M51 and the sighting equipment will get an upgrade. I'll probably also add IR capability and maybe an Urdan cupola.

The hull will lose the assistant driver (to ammo stowage) and gain a new engine deck based possibly on the American AVDS 1790 engine in the Shot Kal and M60. I expect the butt end of this beast to look considerably different when complete. I may push the date to the late 70s early 80s and add ERA armour, but I think not, I want to see the basic tank and not the armour blocks. I may just add applique as the AVDS engine adds a LOT of horsepower to the Panther and by 1973 it could have used an up-armour. May change the wheels to the steel rimmed variety to support the greater weight.

Paul
SGTJKJ
#041
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 9,328 posts
ModelGeek: 492 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 06:20 AM GMT+7
Welcome, Paul!

Sounds like an awesome project that fit perfectly with the alternative history aspect. There will be some serious surgery involved in your build, but you will create a true original that could have been....
hofpig
_VISITCOMMUNITY
England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: March 04, 2007
KitMaker: 1,309 posts
ModelGeek: 155 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 06:35 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Welcome, Alex. I thought this might be something you'd like.

Now Dino riding soldiers would definitely be something out of the ordinary! We have plenty of time to decide. I have already changed my mind back and forth a couple of times since submitting this campaign.



I'll probably do a triceratops. I'd prefer to use Raptors but the Tamiya ones look too small to carry a rider. I think there's a set with the trike and the raptors...if I get that I may make the raptors hunting animals like wardogs.
For the rider my first thought was German DNA Dinos but I'm kind of burned out on Nazis. So maybe an alternative world were Imperial Rome never fell. And the dinos are found on the "new provinces" across the oceans. I might even pick up as set of Masterbox's PinUps and make them in to Amazons. Maybe it's a first contact situation with Roman explorers meeting the Amazons for the first time. That could be fun.

I'm liking the Roman Dino Cavalry idea but if something happens and it's not possible, then I'd probably do a steampunkish deep-sea or lunar exploration based project.



Alex the Tamiya Triceratops is pretty wide! like a rhino or a elephant if you see what I mean. Just converting one myself.

Paul
hofpig
_VISITCOMMUNITY
England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: March 04, 2007
KitMaker: 1,309 posts
ModelGeek: 155 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 06:36 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text

Welcome, Paul.

No problem. Plenty of time to decide, change your mind, decide again etc. I normally do that a lot for campaigns. So many cool ideas, so little time



IU have a spare turret with a Takokm kit so maybe a hovertank?

Pail
hofpig
_VISITCOMMUNITY
England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: March 04, 2007
KitMaker: 1,309 posts
ModelGeek: 155 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - 03:35 AM GMT+7
I just checked my Takom object 279 and it does have two turrets which also has all the parts duplicated. After checking through the instructions and all the parts are there enough of all parts to build two complete turrets, so I guess a hover tank will be the way to go.

Now all I need to decide is how to do the rest of it and maybe a new weapon!

Paul.
SGTJKJ
#041
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 9,328 posts
ModelGeek: 492 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - 05:57 AM GMT+7
Hi Paul, sounds good. I believe I have the same kit in my stash, but with only one as I recall. You got lucky and got two turrets - or are two turrets standard?

In any case it will be an interesting build.
Bluestab
_VISITCOMMUNITY
South Carolina, United States
Joined: December 03, 2009
KitMaker: 2,032 posts
ModelGeek: 69 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - 01:44 PM GMT+7

Quoted Text


Alex the Tamiya Triceratops is pretty wide! like a rhino or a elephant if you see what I mean. Just converting one myself.

Paul



Thanks. I was afraid of that. I was planning on having the rider sitting behind that head cowl on the neck. Maybe have the saddle sit up a bit so the actual seat can be like a jockey's squat position with the stirrups placed higher up. Another idea would be to have a fighting perch like a war elephant. About how wide is the neck? How wide is the back?

I'm looking forward to seeing the hovertank and see how you do your skirting for the plenum chamber. I did one based on a shortened Abrams hull and Sheridan turret for another website.
hofpig
_VISITCOMMUNITY
England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: March 04, 2007
KitMaker: 1,309 posts
ModelGeek: 155 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - 11:05 PM GMT+7

Quoted Text

Hi Paul, sounds good. I believe I have the same kit in my stash, but with only one as I recall. You got lucky and got two turrets - or are two turrets standard?

In any case it will be an interesting build.



According to the instructions there should be two times that sprue (C if I remember correctly.) In my pack they were in the same bag and placed one on top of each other so you might have two and just not noticed! Not sure if there is enough of the PE parts though(but as I'll be doing a few mods to it it does not matter.)

Paul
hofpig
_VISITCOMMUNITY
England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: March 04, 2007
KitMaker: 1,309 posts
ModelGeek: 155 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - 11:12 PM GMT+7

Quoted Text



Thanks. I was afraid of that. I was planning on having the rider sitting behind that head cowl on the neck. Maybe have the saddle sit up a bit so the actual seat can be like a jockey's squat position with the stirrups placed higher up. Another idea would be to have a fighting perch like a war elephant. About how wide is the neck? How wide is the back?

I'm looking forward to seeing the hovertank and see how you do your skirting for the plenum chamber. I did one based on a shortened Abrams hull and Sheridan turret for another website.



The neck section starts around 34-35 roughly at the back of the frilled bone section and the gets thicker as it joins the body. The back is around 45/50mm wide if that helps. I have removed the head and tail from mine (that was a bit of task!) but the tip of the tail makes a good replacement for the missing tongue. (I am repurposing the head into a bust)

I am split on what to do about the hull I'll either scratch something or use a spare zsu 23/4 hull I have doing nothing.

Paul
Bravo1102
_VISITCOMMUNITY
New Jersey, United States
Joined: December 08, 2003
KitMaker: 1,542 posts
ModelGeek: 5 posts
Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 02:00 AM GMT+7
A question, I just got a Girls und Panzer decal set so would it be possible to do a Girls und Panzer M3 Lee instead or in addition to my US Army Trade Federation tank?


Girls und Panzer is set in an alternative world where schools are on ships and the Way of the Tank is a competitive sport.
SGTJKJ
#041
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 9,328 posts
ModelGeek: 492 posts
Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 03:51 AM GMT+7
Stephen, I am not sure if girls and panzer is alternative history or Sci-Fi, but in any case good for this campaign.

srmalloy
_VISITCOMMUNITY
United States
Joined: April 15, 2012
KitMaker: 302 posts
ModelGeek: 25 posts
Posted: Monday, August 31, 2015 - 04:52 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text

The hull will lose the assistant driver (to ammo stowage) and gain a new engine deck based possibly on the American AVDS 1790 engine in the Shot Kal and M60. I expect the butt end of this beast to look considerably different when complete. I may push the date to the late 70s early 80s and add ERA armour, but I think not, I want to see the basic tank and not the armour blocks. I may just add applique as the AVDS engine adds a LOT of horsepower to the Panther and by 1973 it could have used an up-armour. May change the wheels to the steel rimmed variety to support the greater weight.



It probably would not have made a visible change, but I would bet that the Israelis would do a major rework of the Panther's transmission and final drive, too. The gear-cutting machinery needed to make the correct gears for the epicyclic gearing system weren't available in enough quantity, so it used straight-cut gears, which were also made of lower-grade steel. Additionally, the final drive housings were prone to bending under stress. Adding more weight and power would have exacerbated these problems. The only place where the changes might have been visible would be if the changes to the final drive gearing altered the shape of the covers for the final drive.
SGTJKJ
#041
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 9,328 posts
ModelGeek: 492 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 - 07:08 PM GMT+7
Updated roll call.

John Keogh, M706 in post-apocalyptic (atomic war) diorama
Bob R.
Jesper, Games Workshop Mechanicus tank
MLD, ME 262-U4
Windysean, Hover ship
Bluestab, Dino Roman Cavalry
RedDuster, WH40K or WWII paper project
Scipio2010, JS-3S M 1946
phantom_phanatic309, WWI tank with Martian guns
Giovanni C, Paper Panzer 1947
Stephen C. Willoughby, Trade Federation tank
Rfbaer
Paul Anstee, Girls und Panzer M3 Lee or hover tank
Paul Roberts, late 1960ties Israeli Panther tank

Thanks for the interest everybody.
Sixgunner68
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Tennessee, United States
Joined: August 27, 2015
KitMaker: 18 posts
ModelGeek: 9 posts
Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 - 11:38 PM GMT+7
I haven't been a part of one of these before, but I was wondering if I could enter with what I'm calling a "Jundland Wastes Canyon Racer" if I'm not too far along?

It's based on the idea of the Pod Racers from Star Wars, but I never cared for the way the engines were coupled to the cockpit. So my thought was to make a racer that was hard mounted to the engines.

It's currently on the stalled project shelf. So far I've cut down a F1 race car to make the body, but I'm still trying to figure out how I want to do the cockpit and the engine arrangement.

Here's where I started:


And here's where it is currently:

Mongo13
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Michigan, United States
Joined: December 02, 2012
KitMaker: 95 posts
ModelGeek: 9 posts
Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 - 12:03 AM GMT+7
Will be doing my Pak Taco I bought awhile back. Very cool little kit.
SGTJKJ
#041
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 9,328 posts
ModelGeek: 492 posts
Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 - 02:07 AM GMT+7
Ken, Great choice. The PAK TACO will be an awesome kit. Ambush camouflage for that one?

Everett, super idea. You are definitely fine with your build as it is now, so no problem to use that for this campaign. What kind of engines are you planning for? Some old A-10 engine pods?
Sixgunner68
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Tennessee, United States
Joined: August 27, 2015
KitMaker: 18 posts
ModelGeek: 9 posts
Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 - 02:35 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text

Everett, super idea. You are definitely fine with your build as it is now, so no problem to use that for this campaign. What kind of engines are you planning for? Some old A-10 engine pods?



Thanks for the OK! I don't have a firm plan for the engines quite yet, but I have some ideas kicking around!
SGTJKJ
#041
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Kobenhavn, Denmark
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 9,328 posts
ModelGeek: 492 posts
Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 - 06:48 AM GMT+7
Welcome onboard, Everett.

I am sure it will be a great build.
Sixgunner68
_VISITCOMMUNITY
Tennessee, United States
Joined: August 27, 2015
KitMaker: 18 posts
ModelGeek: 9 posts
Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 - 07:24 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text

Welcome onboard, Everett.

I am sure it will be a great build.



Thank you!
I look forward to seeing everyone's projects!!
ironelf
_VISITCOMMUNITY
New York, United States
Joined: January 27, 2010
KitMaker: 183 posts
ModelGeek: 3 posts
Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 - 08:33 AM GMT+7
I have a bunch of the Maschinen Krieger armor suits and I've been looking for a reason to finally build one. This campaign works great! I'll update as soon as I pick which one. I also have an idea for an Israeli Tiger I (new gun, road wheels etc) but I think I'll start with the MaK suit.

Cheers!

Chris