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Lion Roar 20mm Flak Vierling 38 set
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Posted: Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 04:52 AM UTC
Guido Hopp takes a look at the German 20mm Flak Vierling 38 Super Detail Set from Lion Roar, designed for the Tamiya kit.

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Posted: Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 05:05 AM UTC
Good job, Guido!

One minor quibble would be the rate-of-fire. According to my sources, the 1,800 rounds-per-minute was a theoretical maximum, when the practical rate was only 800 RPM; the lower rate I assume is because of the time lost in changing magazines. That's still 13 rounds per second, and a fearsome curtain of lead being thrown up at any target.

The Achilles heel of this offering is its price: it would make more sense to junk the Tamiya kit and go with one of the newer versions out there than spend 65 Euros (around $90) for an upgrade. Barrels are everywhere now and not too expensive if you want the improved flash suppressors that brass can give.
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Posted: Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 08:15 PM UTC
Hi, Bill!
I concur on the theoretical R/M. I think it is quite easy to understand that a clip-fed system can't run with kind of output for more than just a fraction of a second. This rate of fire could only be factually achived with an uninterrupted feeding of ammo, as give by a belt. However, I think calling the maximum possible R/M is the way to go. Track racing cars and motorcycles race for a quartermile only, but their max speed is still given in mph, even though these racers aren't build for racing for a full mile and I wager many of them would not take the stress of a full mile at full throttle. Next time I make sure to emphasise more on the "MAX".
I totally agree that the price is quite outisde anything normal. I really wonder how this set will be available. I can't imagine that there too many folks wanting to spend 65 on kit that may be had at about 5 on e-***.
Cheers,
Guido
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Posted: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 03:29 AM UTC
Guido, love the avatar photo!

Can the set be adapted/converted to the DML or Tristar kits?
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Posted: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 08:32 PM UTC
... avatar pic was taken by my son (7)...

I haven't seen either the tristar, DML or Trumpi quad. I am one of those guys having 3-4 Tamiyas in the stash. I dread buying one of the newer kits to avoid throwing out the old ones. Let's see how "long" I cam resist...

Guido
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 03:26 AM UTC

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I am one of those guys having 3-4 Tamiyas in the stash. I dread buying one of the newer kits to avoid throwing out the old ones. Let's see how "long" I cam resist...


Life is too short, Guido, live a little!

I have a few Tamiyas for things you can't get from other makers, but if there's a choice between them and almost anybody else, I go elsewhere. Their kits fit well, but they're too simple.