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Quick Rust
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 04:58 AM UTC
Darren Baker reviews the Quick Rust product from Wilder and takes it for a test drive.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 06:24 AM UTC
Interesting observations. And the quantity does seem a bit lacking for a full run of tracks.
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 06:43 AM UTC
Darren, from my experience I managed to use the whole thing on the set for Panter/Jagdpanter. It is important to clean tracks thoroughly with detergent and then water after it to remove all grease that influences the quality of rusting.
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 07:26 AM UTC
Now for the biggie, how bad does it smell?

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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 08:24 AM UTC
Kimmo; Unless your nose is over the bottle there is no smell to talk of.

As I said Roman it was my own fault, but this product is available from stores and may be purchased by someone who does not have a PC and so may sot know to wash the tracks, that could result in a nagative opinion of what is a good product and may result in them not being willing to try any other products from the company. It is my hope that Wilder products see this review and take my comments in a positive way rather than a negative as the product does do as advertised. I tried very hard not to sound negative about the product as I do like it, but I feel my comments are valid.
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 08:31 AM UTC
Of course! I think you did a very good review. Sorry if I sound offensive or smth like that. No intention for that.

I also had a mistake with not cleaning the tracks prior burnishing but with a different product. It all comes with experience
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 08:41 AM UTC
This certainly looks to do the trick well Darren! Like Roman explained once things are cleaned there should be a good run with the one bottle I would think. And I do agree that some sort of disclaimer be added to the packaging explaining whether it can cause harm or not...not necessarily the ingredients and possibly a SDS (formally know as the MSDS) at least online. All in all I really like the results! Thanks for the review!!
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 08:54 AM UTC
When I visited the Wilder website to get a bit of Intel on this product, the word ‘Dip’ is used and for a period of 7 to 15 seconds, I defy anyone to be able to dip and submerge a track run in that quantity. In the container it is currently supplied it will be ideal for touching up areas that have perhaps failed to discolour, but beyond that you will need more of the product.
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 09:30 AM UTC
Good to know it doesn't stink. Anybody know if this will blacken photo etch?

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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 09:49 AM UTC
I will test it for you if you can wait a couple of days
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 11:01 AM UTC

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I will test it for you if you can wait a couple of days



No hurry. I've been trying to get an answer on similar products with no luck. If the stuff does darken pe and takes paint, that would be a major bonus.

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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 11:50 AM UTC
Kimmo, you could darken / discolour brass with ferric chloride, which is used to actually do etching. You can buy that in an electronics supplier as it's used for etching circuit boards. It can be painted over just the same as brass as it leaves the metal *very* clean. Different strength mixes and different times produce different effects - not sure how easy it is to control though, so a product like this may be more predictable. Interestingly, considering Darren's comment on crystals around the bottle top, ferric chloride can be bought as crystals which you then mix with water - I'm not saying that's what this is however...
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 12:34 PM UTC
Interesting Matt, I might look into that as well.

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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 12:43 PM UTC
Kimmo it has no effect on brass PE, I do not have any nickel PE to test it on.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 09:22 PM UTC
Bummer. Thanks for checking.

Kimmo