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New AFV Club M54 announced!
RobH
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Posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 02:05 PM UTC
Hi all

Just seen news of an M54 5 ton truck announced by AFV Club
It's still a drawing, but hey, it's out there now!

Wonder how many of my M54 conversions from Realmodels I can build before it's released!!!
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 02:37 PM UTC

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Hi all

Just seen news of an M54 5 ton truck announced by AFV Club
It's still a drawing, but hey, it's out there now!

Wonder how many of my M54 conversions from Realmodels I can build before it's released!!!



If you want I can "race" you
Considering the time it has taken for some of AFV's announcements to go from paper to styrene there might be time to get all of the conversions done.

Alternatively use AFV's chassis/cab and use the rest of the conversions
/ Robin
RobH
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Posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 02:44 PM UTC

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If you want I can "race" you
Considering the time it has taken for some of AFV's announcements to go from paper to styrene there might be time to get all of the conversions done.

Alternatively use AFV's chassis/cab and use the rest of the conversions
/ Robin



There have been some loooooong gestation times for some of their announcements, but just looked and the M113 was only announced 18 months ago, and the picture they posted was looking like a parts breakdown, so I'm going to be positive!!!

But I'm on for a race!

RobinNilsson
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Posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 02:51 PM UTC

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If you want I can "race" you
Considering the time it has taken for some of AFV's announcements to go from paper to styrene there might be time to get all of the conversions done.

Alternatively use AFV's chassis/cab and use the rest of the conversions
/ Robin



There have been some loooooong gestation times for some of their announcements, but just looked and the M113 was only announced 18 months ago, and the picture they posted was looking like a parts breakdown, so I'm going to be positive!!!

But I'm on for a race!



Oh f--k! What have I gotten myself into
/ Robin
RobH
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Posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 03:48 PM UTC

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Oh f--k! What have I gotten myself into
/ Robin



Haha! Wouldn't worry too much Robin....my track record of finishing anything is very very poor!
JSSVIII
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Posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 03:50 PM UTC
Gosh, I wish that said T54(E1)!

Sorry guys, I couldn't help myself.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 04:45 PM UTC
I hope they do come through with it in a reasonable amount of time. An M54 in plastic has been on my list for quite some time.
JavierDeLuelmo
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Posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 05:05 PM UTC
Wow, wow, wow!

Great news! At last!!!!
trickymissfit
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2017 - 01:20 AM UTC

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Hi all

Just seen news of an M54 5 ton truck announced by AFV Club
It's still a drawing, but hey, it's out there now!

Wonder how many of my M54 conversions from Realmodels I can build before it's released!!!



All too long to wait for the M54 just like the M37. Just about every unit other than light infantry had several of them. About the only serious conversions I ever saw were water trucks (non-potable water) and OEM gun trucks.

Now we need a ten ton wrecker and a plastic dump truck!

gary
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2017 - 05:35 AM UTC

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Hi all

Just seen news of an M54 5 ton truck announced by AFV Club
It's still a drawing, but hey, it's out there now!

Wonder how many of my M54 conversions from Realmodels I can build before it's released!!!



Any links? I can't find it on Facebooks AFV Club page.
trickymissfit
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2017 - 05:45 AM UTC

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I hope they do come through with it in a reasonable amount of time. An M54 in plastic has been on my list for quite some time.



seems like it was only a week ago we were rolling south on Highway One with the windshield down (Kentucky air conditioning) with our feet on top the dash! Running around 80 mph with a huge cloud of dust behind us.
gary
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2017 - 09:39 AM UTC
I hope they come out with the 800 series trucks ie the M813, 814, 816, 817 etc.
Mech
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2017 - 05:11 PM UTC
I'm happy with the news and it looks great. I scratch built the M123 truck tractor a long time ago.
Here is a link I found on the net.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1102723-afv-club-35300-m54-5-ton-cargo-truck

Cheers,

Ralph
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2017 - 05:18 PM UTC
Plenty of variants:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M54_5-ton_6x6_truck
2505-Steven
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2017 - 05:48 PM UTC
This is great news. Was wondering why no manufacturer sofar made this important truck. We can get the 2,5 tons, the later 5 tons and the Oshkosh, but the typical M-54 was missing. Looking forward to get this kit.
Cheers!
HDSC2D
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2017 - 11:38 PM UTC
With this and their highly detailed M113 I wouldn't be surprised if they did a Vietnam guntruck with the M113 mounted in the cargo bed.
MAD_DUCK
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Posted: Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 03:29 AM UTC
I'm going to have to buy at least 3 of theses when they come out!
jasegreene
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Posted: Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 08:08 AM UTC
I will be buying a couple of them myself to build Vietnam era guntrucks.This is another one worth wanting for.
ironhull
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Posted: Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 11:36 AM UTC
Real a nice addiction for Vietnam era entusiasts.
From the CAD pictures wheels seem to be split in two parts so I hope they will be hard plastic and not soft vinyle. Note it has the cargo bed split in two parts with the forward for spare wheels. It works well for many Vietnam Gun Trucks but not for all af them. Check your reference on your VGT before starting. Note all Real Model VTG have the cargo bed like AFV model so their decals will work well.
Some VGT had front wheel with civilian pattern. Real Model make two sets of them but I think some other will the same.

http://realmodel.cz/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_flypage.tpl&product_id=347&category_id=19&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=79

http://realmodel.cz/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_flypage.tpl&product_id=348&category_id=19&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=79

I hope they will sell their conversion without truck frame and also the M51 dump bed. Beautiful and cheaper.

Bigred69
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Posted: Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 02:51 AM UTC
Now that AFV Club is going to bring out the M54, the next step could maybe be a M246? Just a thought.
trickymissfit
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Posted: Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 09:08 AM UTC
most all M54's had the winch mounted on the front, so lets hope they included the option! I look forward to getting my hands on the truck. Need to study some photos of the road canvas used on the front of a 155 howitzer.

damn I'm gonna be poor as a church mouse!
gary
ironhull
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Posted: Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 11:26 AM UTC
A Honest John wuold be a nice idea in the future
bulivyf
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Posted: Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 12:25 PM UTC
We will definitely prepare all of our conversion sets, including all GunTrucks for this new AFV Club model. I look forward to this model myself.
trickymissfit
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Posted: Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 12:38 PM UTC

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A Honest John wuold be a nice idea in the future



the Honest John was on the ten ton chassis, and even then there were two different ones
gary
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Posted: Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 02:02 PM UTC

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A Honest John wuold be a nice idea in the future



the Honest John was on the ten ton chassis, and even then there were two different ones
gary



Ummm, don't think so ...

The M289 and the M386 were both based on the M139 chassis-cab. The M139 chassis-cab was modified to strengthen the chassis.
From Olive-Drab, link below:
"The M139C and M139D Truck, Chassis was extensively modified to provide a lower axle ratio, reinforced front axle housing, and other changes to enable the chassis to support the missile and the stress of launch. The M139 version was chosen with modified front cross members and brackets for jack stands. A long launch rail with an A-frame brace held the Honest John."

"The M39 series had both single- and dual-rear-tire models; very few single-rear-tire trucks were built. Most models had 11.00×20s with dual rear tires; tractor wreckers had larger 12.00×20s. Bridge trucks and all M139 chassis based trucks had 14.00×20s. [7] A standard military cab, designed by REO, was used. It had hinged doors with roll-up windows, a folding windshield, and a removable canvas roof. Cargo trucks and tractors could be fitted with a ring mount for a M2 Browning machine gun. A hard roof could be fitted.[3][4][10][11]"

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM83PT_M289_5_Ton_Truck_Mounted_Rocket_Launcher_45th_Infantry_Museum_Oklahoma_City_Oklahoma

http://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m39_missiletrk.php

/ Google